topic Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so in Network

iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

NFH — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 12:57:05 GMT

Since May 2022, it is no longer possible for Three customers to use the "Virgin Media WiFi" SSID in London Underground stations, as they must now connect instead using the new "THREE_WIFI" SSID. Three provides a wifi profile on SIMs containing the credentials for iPhones to connect to the new "THREE_WIFI" SSID.

https://www.three.co.uk/support/device-support/free-wifi-on-london-underground instructs iPhone users "Switch on your device and connect automatically". However, despite this clear confirmation that the device should connect automatically, as well as the THREE_WIFI profile being configured by Three to "Auto-join" and this wifi network being configured in wifi settings to "Auto-Join", iPhones fail to automatically join this wifi network. The impact is that:

Whenever an iPhone becomes briefly disconnected from THREE_WIFI for any reason, it fails to reconnect automatically and remains disconnected.
If a Three customer is on a train, then each time the train comes into a Tube station, the iPhone fails to reconnect automatically to THREE_WIFI, causing a loss of connectivity.
If a Three customer walks around a Tube station, then the iPhone can become disconnected from THREE_WIFI if there is a failed handover between access points, following which the iPhone fails to reconnect automatically to THREE_WIFI, causing a loss of connectivity.

This is a defect, which did not occur on the previous "Virgin Media WiFi" SSID. The defect is either with the configuration of the THREE_WIFI network or with the THREE_WIFI profile on the SIM, which contains the credentials for this wifi network. Given that the defect does not occur at one station, Waterloo, it suggests that the cause is the former rather than the latter. It is notable that the wifi at Waterloo has always behaved slightly differently from other stations also with the previous "Virgin Media WiFi" SSID. The defect affects all Three customers using iPhones, not only me.

I have reported this to Three customer services, but the responses that I received demonstrate insufficient technical knowledge by customer services to understand or resolve the issue, and there is also a significant language barrier. Please could the Three community team escalate this and obtain an estimated time for it to be fixed?

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

SE — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:58:14 GMT

The Three chat text is 30 mins avoiding direct questions. The issue remains. No uk or trusted way to resolve this. I’m leaving three…after endless frustrations

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

JonathanB — Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:13:39 GMT

Hi @NFH,

Sorry for the delay in getting in touch with you. I appreciate that this must be a really frustrating issue if you're having to repeatedly manually connect to the Wi-Fi service at underground stations.

I've received feedback that we have recently addressed an issue that was causing some authentication requests on the underground network to fail, so that may be relevant here. Is this issue still persisting for you now?

I appreciate you've mentioned this is an issue for all iPhone users on Three, but could you confirm which model(s) of iPhone, which software version(s), and at which station(s) you've recently been experiencing this issue?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

NFH — Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:22:44 GMT

Thanks @JonathanB for your reply. I was on the Tube this afternoon, and it does appear to be fixed. I had been reporting this to both Three and Apple several times over the last few weeks, so it's not clear whether Three or Apple fixed it. For example, we had both updated to iOS 16.4.1, and Apple might have fixed it in iOS 16.4.1. Although the symptoms pointed to an iOS bug, given that the network is clearly configured to "auto-join" but the iPhone fails to auto-join, Apple were blaming Three without explanation.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

SE — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:20:02 GMT

Last night NO THREE Wifi connectivity. Not fixed for me. Any suggestions wellcome. iPhone XR. Latest software installed. Its a THREE Issue, and possibly my settings in my phone. NOT YET RESOLVED.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

NFH — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:31:45 GMT

@SEAre you saying you have no connectivity at all (which would be different symptoms) or that your iPhone doesn't auto-join the network (which would be the symptoms that I described above)?

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

JonathanB — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:21:36 GMT

Thanks for confirming this @NFH. If you notice any further issues with the service please let me know.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

JonathanB — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:30:55 GMT

Hi @SE,

We'll do our best to help, but I think it's best to stick to the other thread you've been posting on. This'll help keep the information on the community clear and tidy, so that it can be more helpful to our members.

If we do solve the other issue, and you then notice issues with auto join, please update me here though.

JonathanB

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

NFH — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:54:26 GMT

I am still receiving calls about this issue from Three's 2nd line support. I told them that the issue appeared to be fixed at North Greenwich at the weekend, but I couldn't confirm whether it now works at other stations. When he noted this, he didn't know how to spell an internationally well-known place like Greenwich. Furthermore during previous calls, Three customer services repeatedly indicated that the "Elizabeth Line" is the name of a specific station, and didn't understand that it's an entire train line. Three UK, please can you employ people who have an understanding of basic geography of the United Kingdom?

There's also a significant language barrier, because Three's call centre staff very often don't understand basic questions. For example, I asked him whether Three had made a change to fix this issue, and he replied "yes". When his subsequent statements contradicted this answer, I challenged him. It appeared that he hadn't understood my simple question and instead replied "yes", probably to avoid admitting that he didn't understand simple English.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

Seanbe — Sat, 03 Jun 2023 10:25:35 GMT

My phone still will not auto connect when on the underground 🤷🏻‍♂️

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

JonathanB — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 13:03:31 GMT

Hi @Seanbe,

I'm sorry to hear you're also running into issues with this. Just to check, is it the same issue that @NFH described? You have an iPhone which can connect, but it doesn't automatically reconnect if disconnected for any reason?

Please ensure your iOS is fully up to date. Can you let me know which model of iPhone you're using, the software version, and what stations you've been experiencing this issue at?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

Seanbe — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 06:22:18 GMT

Hi, hadn’t checked back on this forum, will do so now for the next few days in hope of a fix. Still won’t auto connect. iPhone 14 Plus, most recent software update. It’s been years since it’s worked properly.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

JonathanB — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:57:23 GMT

Hi @Seanbe,

We found a fix to an iOS issue with the Underground Wi-Fi network quite recently:

Slightly different issue, in that these users were being asked for a username/password, instead of it automatically logging in, but I wonder if resetting your network settings will help for this too?

Settings > General > Transfer or Reset [Device] > Reset > Reset Network Settings.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

NFH — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:00:28 GMT

@JonathanBResetting network settings is quite a drastic step. It deletes a large amount of the user's data, specifically all wifi passwords. Therefore unless it is a known solution to a problem, it is not a step to try just on the off-chance that it might work.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

Seanbe — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:15:15 GMT

That’s something I’d tried before but can’t hurt to do it again I guess! Will update when I’m next underground and reply either way.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

Seanbe — Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:16:11 GMT

That’s something I’d tried before but can hurt to try again I suppose! Will let you know if it works.

Re: iPhones fail to auto-join THREE_WIFI on London Underground despite being configured to do so

L_x_007 — Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:19:56 GMT

I have an iPhone 14 and this is literally every station, I have to manually connect to WiFi and sometimes there’s no time between stations on certain lines except where they’ve installed permanent connection like parts of the northern line Charing Cross branch. But pretty much every underground station otherwise requires me to manually select three WiFi once the train pulls into the station hoping it will connect before I have a few seconds to try to load or refresh whatever it is I need the connection for on the underground. It’s super frustrating. I can’t wait for this to be fixed, or for TFL to sort out permanent connection.