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Intermittent connection issues loading/changing site- secure connection failed/site can't be reached

EDIflyer
Involved

Is anyone else occasionally getting a 'connection down' error from Chrome (or 'Secure Connection Failed' from Firefox) when changing page - if I hit refresh it works fine. At first I wondered if it was the site I was using but have noticed it on multiple different major websites over the past couple of months and not noticed it from other locations where I don't use Three Broadband so does seem to be related to the router/connection (this is via wired Ethernet too, so not a WiFi problem).  I've tried changing DNS server in case that helps but no difference.

It mainly seems to happen when trying to first load a site or (annoyingly) at checkout when a different site is being loaded as part of the checkout process.  It certainly doesn't happen everytime but does happen with reasonable frequency.  I've also noticed I often get it when trying to pull/push from/to Github too and have to do so a number of times for it to work (browsing the Github website works fine).

 
I'm using a NR5103E with Firmware Version V1.00(ACBJ.0)b14 - I tried rebooting it but to no effect.

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Dwcol
Fledgling

I too have been having the same issues as everyone here. It was running pretty much flawlessly until firmware b14 reared its head.

Started noticing it with my ps5 and it was telling me I wasn’t connected to psn even though I was able to connect to everything else and eventually would throw me out of games advising it couldn’t confirm the license.

Then started getting random errors on banking apps stating request hasn’t gone through and to try again. Then the random ssl errors would occur throughout the day. The final straw was the router itself would disconnect for hours on end until I had to reset back to factory settings and this happened 3 days in a row which is unacceptable anyway but more so as my wife relies on the connection for work so I have had to switch over to my old huawei b525 4g router which is more stable but not what I paid for.

Are you any further forward to what a fix may look like? Or can you give the option to rollback firmwares to see if that resolves our issues? I am on a rolling 30 day contract and will be leaving for ee which we’ve had before (slower speed) but rock solid connection wise if the issues are not resolved quickly. It’s not enough to say we’re looking in to it for weeks on end I’m afraid. 

applepieman
Active

Been away for a week and hoped this would be resolved by now but appears not. I am struggling to understand how progress hasn't been made in all this time. Can we have a proper update on this issue and when a fix will be provided as it simply isn't good enough carrying on like this 

tucu
Regular

FWIW I swaped my phone card with the router card and set the APN back to 3internet. Still getting errors when running @EDIflyer's test

for i in {1..100}; do curl -I --no-progress-meter -o /dev/null https://github.com || true; done;
hughesceri
Active

I don't know if things are getting worse for me or whether I'm relying more on github.com and ghcr.io urls than previously, but my Three home broadband is starting to become unusable for anything related to software development now.

Even the simple act of updating or installing a package using homebrew on the mac is very difficult, as each of the (many) dependencies for a package requires a couple of hits to ghcr.io and when one of those fails I have to rerun and rerun until it works - or like I've had to do today, go to a place with public wifi and run it there.

How long can we expect this to continue? If there's no sign of a workaround, how long until Three starts to really acknowledge the issue and give us something that can help, e.g. some sort of paid VPN service.

Apologies if this is not the relevant forum to start a conversation about compensation etc - I'll happily try something else that doesn't require any form of subscription / payment, but I'm not going to use a limited, free VPN as that's just a short term workaround that will eventually hit a data transfer limit.

applepieman
Active

This really is quite disappointing I have to say and generic technical guidance really isn't the answer for customers. 

BrummyGit
Active

I got fed up with the problems as I need a reliable and fast connection, therefore decided to try an expensive fix. I bought myself a Zyxel FWA710 5G outdoor router and mounted it in my loft next to the Three supplied NR5103E, then swapped my SIM over.

For the last week running with the FWA710 using the latest OEM firmware and IP Passthrough mode I haven't experienced any issues other than a loss of service overnight at the weekend that I suspect was mast maintenance as it started at exactly 2am and lasted an hour.

JonathanB
Community Moderator
Community Moderator

Hey everyone,

Sorry for the delay in updates. The support teams on our side haven't been reproducing the issue, so it does seem to be quite elusive. We're still digging deeper into what could be the common link for those of you who are affected.

There's a few potential causes in terms of cached data, DNS settings, Firewalls, etc, here's a couple of guides/suggestions for related errors:

https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/err_connection_closed/

https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/pr-end-of-file-error/

Please feedback if any of the suggestions in the above articles help with this issue.

I'll let you all know as soon as we have any more to share on our side.

Thanks,
Jonathan



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AlSeek
Active

Thanks for the update @JonathanB. I've tried all these suggestions but no difference for me. Also tried the DNS flush suggested by @EDIflyer but soon had the usual error on affected websites. TBH I don't think it makes sense to be a local device issue since, as mentioned in the past, switching my router to use 4G only pretty much resolves the issue besides a very rare instance but 5G is extremely badly affected, if it were a local device issue of DNS cache or otherwise I'd expect similar incidence on 4G and 5G. (I have primarily been using 4G this last month besides occasionally going to 5G to check if it's still an issue, which it severely is).

EDIflyer
Involved

Thanks for the update, @JonathanB .  It's quite disappointing that the engineers haven't been able to replicate it given how many of us has posted re issues.  I had a look at the links and most of them seem very generic and not necessarily applicable as they are referring to Chrome/Firefox when a lot of us have also confirmed the issue on mobile phones (on WiFi), smart TVs, headless Linux devices, etc.

However one of the later solutions was more interesting - re flushing the DNS cache. I followed the more detailed guidance at https://devconnected.com/how-to-flush-dns-cache-on-linux/ as well as the Windows guidance at https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/flush-dns/ and when running the code from @Tatablack from upthread (slightly adjusted below) I've noted a marked improvement with no errors after 100 curl requests:

for i in {1..100}; do curl -I --no-progress-meter -o /dev/null https://github.com || true; done;

I'm not certain it's 100% sorted yet but I'm going to try running things without the VPN for a bit and see how I get on (although for shop check-outs I might still pop it back on for a bit just in case!)

tucu
Regular

Tried this, made no difference. It was better for a few days when I switched APNs, but the problem is still there. Interestingly, the error is different for me:

curl: (35) LibreSSL SSL_connect: SSL_ERROR_SYSCALL in connection to github.com:443

The fact that a VPN fixes the issue AND that @BrummyGit still had issues with another router makes me wonder what kind of networking monitoring does Three do 🤔 (I did try disabling the adult filter as suggested in another thread - made no difference either).