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Intermittent connection issues loading/changing site- secure connection failed/site can't be reached

EDIflyer
Involved

Is anyone else occasionally getting a 'connection down' error from Chrome (or 'Secure Connection Failed' from Firefox) when changing page - if I hit refresh it works fine. At first I wondered if it was the site I was using but have noticed it on multiple different major websites over the past couple of months and not noticed it from other locations where I don't use Three Broadband so does seem to be related to the router/connection (this is via wired Ethernet too, so not a WiFi problem).  I've tried changing DNS server in case that helps but no difference.

It mainly seems to happen when trying to first load a site or (annoyingly) at checkout when a different site is being loaded as part of the checkout process.  It certainly doesn't happen everytime but does happen with reasonable frequency.  I've also noticed I often get it when trying to pull/push from/to Github too and have to do so a number of times for it to work (browsing the Github website works fine).

 
I'm using a NR5103E with Firmware Version V1.00(ACBJ.0)b14 - I tried rebooting it but to no effect.

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Nameless
Established

I just did a quick test

To no surprise, the PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR still exists...

How are things for you all?

 

No change, no update, no sign of any work being done to remedy the situation. Surprised? No.

Yeah it's been really bad for me this morning!

GE3
Fledgling

New customer here. Hitting the same problems. At first I thought it was down to using an old version of Firefox, the ESR release, whereas another computer using the latest release didn't seem to hit it. But then I found it happened everywhere.  I have the Three ZTE MC888A Hub.

I have a fairly easy way to recreate the problem so was hoping to add value to this thread. But I'm basically doing what @torz77 was doing back in September (Dates confused me, Why the American format?!)  And I suspect @_duncan_ is even closer with the openssl command.

Had a very frustrating chat with support today, who are obviously useless but also seem unwilling to escalate an issue. I asked if there was a ticket system they can send me a link to so I could add the scripts I've written but they said no. So for a joined up conversation this forum seems to be as good as it gets.

I'm likely repeating a lot of this thread, but it's good to have a full problem summary so here I go....

Frequent errors in Firefox for PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR. Chrome affected too with a slightly different error. Affects some sites, but not all. Biggest site I've seen fail is Wikipedia, so I usually test with that. I simplified it to a curl command, which works on Window, Mac and Linux.

 

curl -sv https://www.wikipedia.org

 

It fails about 1 time in 4. Example errors are in pastebin for Windows, Mac and Linux.  They show problems during TLS handshake.  My initial searching suggested this is caused by a misconfigured Proxy. I don't have one, but I bet Three has many.

To make it easy to recreate the error I made scripts that run curl 100 times and print out stats of how many failures there were. Windows batch script here. Mac/Linux Bash script here.  Run the script with a URL as the argument, eg

 

testUrl.sh https://www.wikipedia.org

 

Tests I have done with these scripts....

  • Being connected to the hub over wifi has failures.
  • Being connected to the hub over a cable has failures.
  • Using my landline ISP, NowTV (really Sky Broadband) never fails.
  • Tethering to my mobile phone and using Lebara (MVNO on Vodafone) never fails.
  • Taking the Three SIM out of the Hub and putting it in my mobile phone and tethering as above has failures.
    Windows, Mac OS and Linux all show failures failures connected to Three and no failures on NowTV and Lebara.
  • Tunnelling through Tor shows no failures (this was my simple VPN test, run the Tor Browser and then add curl argument "--socks5-hostname localhost:9150")
  • HTTP sites always work - no surprise, the problem is TLS handshake and TLS isn't used in HTTP.

I think the above tests prove there's a problem with Three, and it's not a problem with the Hub.  There's something in Three's network, perhaps something that handles 1/4 or 1/5 of the traffic in a particular direction that is misconfigured.

What's so horrifying is this thread is 15 months old, others have given the commands to recreate the problem and @JonathanB says


we haven't been able to reproduce the issue on our side


Well have my scripts. If you can't recreate from that, there's no hope of ever solving it.

Three has proven to me that mobile broadband is viable as home broadband. Much faster than my landline and the 5G is stable. But Three can't manage its network properly. I'm still in my 30 return period, so I need to decide soon if buying a VPN to put over the top of this, or jumping to a more expensive provider, or a cheaper SIM-only deal and adding the expense of buying my own hub.

GE3
Fledgling

Update: I jumped ship, cancelled with Three and moved to a non-Three MVNO SIM only deal that's cheaper and a one month contract so it's easy to switch if they develop problems.  Buying a router will push the total cost higher than Three, but I'd rather pay more for a good service than pay less for something with basic issues.

I specifically mentioned this thread in the web chat when I cancelled my contract. Best of luck to everyone suffering the network problems here.  Keep the pressure on and maybe the mountain will move.

Nameless
Established

Personally I would recommend doing what is best for yourself overall - I am only still with Three iD mobile (Uses Three's network) because I use Cloudflare's WARP over the top to prevent these errors and it is the cheapest and fastest internet connection available for my area

If Cloudflare's WARP and/or an added VPN would not be feasible or cost effective (WARP has a free version), then I would be looking at my alternative options carefully

AlSeek
Active

Coming up to the end of my 2 year contract so just put in my 30 days notice to cancel. Somehow I managed to resist Three's offer to lock in for a further 24 months...

I intend to buy my own router (returning the Three one as is required) and try other 5G options since cable options for me are poor.

Nameless
Established

An earlier check in because I decided to do a quick test

DuckDuckGo caused the issue this time then https://docs.pi-hole.net/

The first error took about 2 minutes - The second took 5 seconds after that...

How have things been for you all?

 

bytespider
Involved

For the sites I frequent, including Github, things have been fine. But I also use Chrome so I may not notice a slightly longer delay as the page loads.